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good afternoon ladies and gentlemen

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welcome to the program I am your host

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Chris George

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zuker and you have entered the den of

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war grab your glasses of scotch although

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for some of you from the eastern

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hemisphere immersing I should say you're

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probably onto beer at this point in the

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in the day and put your chair to the

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fire because we're gonna learn some cool

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[\h__\h] tonight courtesy of a personal hero

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of mine nuh nuh none other than Brian

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Forester we're going to be discussing

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the DNA testing of the elongated skulls

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of Packer s that he has been working on

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with la Mars only for Bob last ball

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pretty well since since it has been

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really looked at he's been trying to get

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these done and there is a huge reveal

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that will be done in LA on the 2nd

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February and we are the first show

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that's going to be able to discuss these

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goings ons with him and it's a great

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honor and a pleasure to have him on the

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show and it is a man with no with no

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need for introduction everyone does know

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him he is a fantastic personality and

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individual and researcher in the field

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of alternative history and somebody whom

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I believe is one of the most incredible

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individuals when it comes to self

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American lost civilizations I did want

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so Brian thank you very much for joining

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us on the program and I see that Koko is

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so excited for the show that she wants

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to join us as well and you can you know

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let's start the set at a very logical

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starting point that the pack rest skulls

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are and with the elongated skulls are a

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fixture within the alternative history

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community from anyone who is a believer

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in the ancient aliens theory to those

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who believe in Atlantis how did these

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how did these artifacts first get

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sorry there's a this means music playing

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sorry oh no I can't hear you okay are

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you able to hear me oh there we go

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okay okay sorry about that the Packer

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asked skulls the elongated skulls

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they're they're a have been a fixture in

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the alternative history community as

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well as from anybody who is interested

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in ancient alien theory to even

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something just as basic as a logical

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basis for Atlantis how did these skulls

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first get discovered what what are they

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well my discovery of them was I I saw

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photographs on TV shows when I would say

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you know when I was much younger stating

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that they were Nephilim or hybrids or

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aliens or whatever but my first physical

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encounter was here in practice in Peru

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when my friend senior Juan Navarro

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he had a or has a little Museum and my

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wife and I walked in there one day and

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we saw this mummified elongated head and

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I was fascinated by it and and he said

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oh I have more at home if he'd like me

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to bring them to show you and I would

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that sounds great and coming from a

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biological background I just I was

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amazed at the shape because they some of

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them appear to be so natural-looking

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that I don't and didn't think that there

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were examples of head boarding or

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cranial deformation and there's almost

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no literature whatsoever on the internet

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or in academic circles about these

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ancient people so that's why I took it

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on myself to figure out who these people

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now the peoples themselves they take a

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very that they occupy a very large area

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of the planet's surface even though the

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land masses themselves may be relatively

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small I've been watching your work as

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well as multitude of your lectures from

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open minds conference for instance

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megalith amania

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the Polynesian triangle now exactly how

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does that fit into the the skull mythos

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is there a basis of travel that that

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people had arrived to the southern

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continent from well the curious thing

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and again because there's so little

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academic material except about the

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textiles these people made they almost

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no attention to their pet the size of

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their heads the fact that the royal

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people had had dark red hair not the

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black hair of Native Americans I was

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also able to find out that they average

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5 foot 10 to 6 feet tall which is very

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big for an ancient Peruvian and also if

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you have darkish red or reddish hair you

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tend to have very light skin and

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possibly blue or green eyes so those are

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characteristics that don't fit in at all

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with the standard bearing landbridge

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movement of people from siberia and

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hawaii and other places i heard stories

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that there were ancient people that had

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reddish hair and light skin who were

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the Polynesian triangle comes in so it's

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been a process of trying to figure out

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that obviously these people didn't

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spontaneously evolved on the coast of

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Peru from local native people so the

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only possibility that I've been able to

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come to is that they obviously migrated

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from somewhere else and they would have

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to at least have gone through Polynesia

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in order to get to the the coast of Peru

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now the the eddies in the Pacific Ocean

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and then the currents have been proven

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to have been able to transport boats

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over extended period or extended lengths

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and distances I know the one of the

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prevailing theories has been that they

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were island hopping the other one is

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that they came down along the coast and

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in shallow reed areas which I never

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thought made much sense

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but there seems to have been multiple

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landings at or at least possible

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landings is it possible they came to

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either Bolivia or peru first and then

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let's say traveled somewhere else and

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then came back at a later time it's

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possible the interesting thing is

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there's a lady who lives in New Zealand

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the native New Zealand people are called

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the Maori and they're there a Polynesian

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heritage so that means they're you know

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in general they're quite stocky dark

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skin brown eyes black wavy hair but she

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has red hair and it's genetic and so she

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had her DNA tested and it turns out that

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30 percent of her DNA is Persian so

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you're talking about major complications

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in migration also we have building

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evidence that ancient people traveled

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not only to the Pacific coast of South

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America but also the the Atlantic side

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too and it's it's quite possible that

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ancient people both sailed to the coast

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of Peru but also sailed up the Amazon

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River and got to the into deep deep into

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the jungle and then climbed over the

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Andes to get into places like Cusco in

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Peru so the the story is very complex

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and I know that some people will try and

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fit the story of the Anunnaki or the

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watchers or they will use some type of

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other mythology to try and place the

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elongated skulls into some type of

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paradigm that that makes sense

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and I know that you're somewhat of a

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researcher and have colleagues that are

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researchers of giant mythos as well it's

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it's also a guilty pleasure of mine and

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there are numerous reports of red hair

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giants in North America in the Ohio

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States is there any relation between the

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two or is this something that is more

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like well red hair is you know it's red

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hair is a characteristic but it doesn't

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necessarily mean that if red hair is

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here it has to be the same people there

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yeah we aren't sure yet la Marzulli is

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doing a lot of work with the Nephilim

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and the Giants and humans and Jim Vieira

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are doing a lot of work with the Giants

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the problem so far is because of the

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cover-up in the 19th century of giant

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remains that we're found that aren't

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probably now in the Smithsonian

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warehouses DNA as far as I know has not

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been recovered in order to do a

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comparison so we are at the beginning

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stages of this once they are able to get

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jump you know if they can't get giant

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DNA then we could do a comparison of the

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practice with them and see if there's a

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relationship but in general in ancient

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history red hair and dark red hair tend

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to be science of nobility you find that

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in Israel in the Middle East

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Ireland Scotland Skanda Scandinavia

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etcetera but finding them on the west

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coast of Peru 2,000 plus years ago if

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nothing else that shatters the idea that

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the only migration to Peru came from

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people crossing the Bering Land Bridge

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and walking their way down thousands of

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miles so it's it's it's pretty

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earth-shattering evidence and at the

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same time it would also potentially be

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indicative of the types of architecture

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that are found worldwide I know that

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let's say in the temple of Osiris or

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what's termed the temple of Osiris there

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are megalithic blocks which are shaped

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together using very similar styles which

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are found in Japan and found in and

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found in in Peru even so you know seeing

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those types of DNA markers in you know

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let's say and from the Persian region or

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at least that part of the world and

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actually also seeing it in Peru is and

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seeing the same architecture it lends

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somebody to think that it's possible at

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least that there is some type of

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connection why do you think that there

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has been such a pushback from from the

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archaeological community at least I know

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that there has been less recently I the

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main a theory which was the Bering Land

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Bridge crossing that is starting to gain

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or I should say the alternate theory was

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starting to gain more prominence within

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within that community but you're still

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finding resistance from your perspective

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are you still seeing it improve from

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from the archaeological community or is

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it the same there as it is in the United

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States there there actually is very not

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a lot of our Kela archaeological

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activity that's going on in Peru these

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days much less than previously I think

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the most important aspect is we've

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depended too long on one small group of

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people to tell us what the historical

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record is as in archaeologists and

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anthropologists and so that's why I've

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been very active with engineers and

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stonemasons and other fields of related

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interest engineers people geologists

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people like that

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and once you get there their statements

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then the standard archaeological story

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that the dynastic Egyptians built the

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Great Pyramid or that the Inka built the

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megalithic works in Peru just simply

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fall apart because they didn't have any

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type of level of technology that could

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possibly do this it doesn't matter how

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many people they had employed the tools

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the tools said they had which is bronze

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chisels and stone hammers it doesn't it

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just doesn't work anymore and so I think

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there's a quietness in academia about

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this because the evidence is becoming

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completely overwhelming oh I think the

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only alternate theory that I've been

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able to hear from with regards to stone

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tools and chisels or even shaping of

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stone was actually from someone who's

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considered a renegade archaeologist even

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in the Egyptology field which is trying

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to member where I heard the story but I

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know that's what was mentioned to me was

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that okay well instead of saying well it

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was shaped over a short period of time

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the person postulated well it could have

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been done over you know let's say 20 or

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30 years that one-one craftsman may have

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had you know his entire working life

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there's just this one piece which at

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least is something that's a little more

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credible then no it was done within you

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know a couple of weeks with stone saw

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and some embracive sand and that's how

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they got through it right and even with

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some of the work that you found in you

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know whether in not mistake it wasn't

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Machu Picchu but it would have been in

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Egypt where the bore holes within solid

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granite and diorite and I think even in

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my remembrance of all of all the sites

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but these were using very hybrid high

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very high vibration boring tools which

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you had stated are what are the people's

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stories that are that they're saying

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that they had gotten here from and do

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they account for this type of high

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technology or even just basic technology

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being around or is there methodology of

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saying this is how we got here just

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about the journey well the you know

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again

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the important thing is to take someone

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like an engineer we've had mining

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engineers from Australia with us who use

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drill like hollow core drill bits

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embedded with diamond and when they look

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at the profile of some of these drill

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holes in Egypt they say that's about

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five hundred times as efficient as the

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tools I use so you're not even talking

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modern technology being used in the

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distant past you're talking about

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technology that we don't even have and

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when they use ideas like copper saws

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with quartz and as an abrasive again

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when you have an engineer or a machinist

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with you they they completely discount

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that because the problem is that the

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courts and is the same material as the

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quartz which is inside the granite so

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you're trying to cut something with the

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same hardness as the stone itself which

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means you're not going to move very

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quickly at all actually the the two

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materials basically neutralize each

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other and copper

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you know copper is a very soft material

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so

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the Egyptians up until the eighth

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century BC and taking into account that

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even Egyptologists believe the Great

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Pyramid was built 2500 BC the the

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hardest tools they had were bronze

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chisels which is about 3.5 out of 10 in

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hardness and the Inka never showed any

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evolution of tool technology up until

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the time of the Spanish which was the

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16th century when steel was introduced

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so you have these Bronze Age cultures

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who could not possibly have done things

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like the Osirian in Egypt or the Great

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Wall of saqsaywaman in Peru where you

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have a hundred and twenty ton blocks so

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the more that we research it the more we

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bring other experts in from different

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parts of the world the more the standard

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story is simply collapsing and this

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would also coincide with stories of

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migration as well if I'm not mistaken

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the boats in Lake Titicaca are that

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they're constructed with reeds which are

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found there as well as only there as

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well as in the Isle of Rapa Nui only are

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essentially the same construction of

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very similar construction to the boats

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that were found in in Egypt and which

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are still ocean faring so it still goes

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to ask okay well is it the same based on

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coincidence is the same based on design

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and are the levels of technical or is

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the construction that the DNA that's

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found as well as the craftsmanship that

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is still being used today which is found

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in both places is there a connection and

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you know IIIi know we've discussed

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certain areas in in Peru and Bolivia but

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Rapa Nui seems to be one of the and for

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all of these listeners out there Rapa

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Nui is the native name for Easter Island

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which I know some of even our adepts

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have been themselves and the

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craftsmanship of the moai statues are

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I'm going to say absolutely flat but

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absolutely baffling to somebody like

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myself especially when you realize that

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there is an entire body buried beneath

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the beneath the ground and a mutual

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acquaintance so far as dr. Robert Schoch

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has has done

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postulating on the dates there and some

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of the dates go back a long time you

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know so it can you clarify more on the

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dating as well as the peoples that could

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have been there and how that can account

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for not just something that's let's say

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a thousand years old but you know could

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be up to twelve thousand eight hundred

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and sixty years old or older well yeah

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well well one point is that the totora

448
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reed is found in lake titicaca it's also

449
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found up right here like i'm several

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hundred feet from a lot of totora reed

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so it's found on the coast of peru and

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also in Rapa Nui and also when you when

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you look at the language you see

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interesting things like the little craft

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they still make on Rapa Nui which is for

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one person is called a pora and the ones

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made on the coast of Peru are called a

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Torah so likely it's the same thing and

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if you have that material on the coast

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of Peru you can construct a boat if you

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wanted 300 feet long out of Tottori and

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you could sail to Rapa Nui which would

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be your entry point into the Pacific

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Ocean and the rest of the world so as

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regards Robert Schoch yeah we were

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actually there with him which was great

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about four years ago and his great

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expertise is weathering of stone that's

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why he was able to read eight the Sphinx

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so when he we visited probably seven or

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eight or ten sites and both he and I

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noticed two distinct styles of

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construction there was a megalithic

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style without any mortar and all of

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those sites looked like they were

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damaged by some kind of Cataclysm and

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then the Polynesian style which is

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stacking rocks on top of another as well

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as with the moai which are the figures

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as you mentioned the head sticking out

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of the ground is it's not the whole

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sculpture the bodies go all the way down

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one of them is about 40 feet tall so he

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noticed in terms of weathering and stuff

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aisle two very distinct designs these

486
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the smaller ones had flatter noses and

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looked like they were Polynesian and

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also Polynesian in manufacturing or

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construction but then the bigger ones

490
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with the more angular noses more

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European style or maybe Asian or Middle

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Eastern style noses those were much

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bigger and much more finely done and he

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had no problem in stating that he

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thought some of that work was at least

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12,000 years old based on weathering and

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at that point in time obviously the sea

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level was about 300 to 400 feet lower

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than it currently is today and again not

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getting to Wu here the idea that the

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Central Pacific there well there's a

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large chain of islands there with with

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water down that low there's a very good

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chance that the islands could have been

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connected or there could have been a

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much larger landmass that was there

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which may have attributed for two

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stories of MU or even of Atlantis if

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that were the case and if you're a

510
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follower of Earth Sciences or of

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geological history I know that's

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theories based on the work of

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researchers such as Graham Hancock or

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Randall Carlson have at least gone

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through the logical process of saying

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okay well this is how during the last

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ice age that there could have been land

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masses in let's say the middle of the

519
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Atlantic making these stories or at

520
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least the legends of these places

521
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existing but you know one of the legends

522
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that I'm always a at least starting to

523
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look into is the legends of the peoples

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of Hawaii and how that there were

525
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individuals that had come during let's

526
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say the 16 or 1400s but there were

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peoples that were there then they

528
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claimed to have been there for twenty

529
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five thousand years is that correct that

530
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is absolutely correct when you I lived

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on on Maui for two years and so I I had

532
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access to the old Hawaiian auntie's who

533
00:23:57,749 --> 00:23:55,089
are the great storytellers they they

534
00:23:59,980 --> 00:23:57,759
carry the oral tradition there's also a

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00:24:03,549 --> 00:23:59,990
great book which you can still get go

536
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:03,559
Tales from the night rainbow and that's

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an oral tradition account and so what

538
00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:09,559
they state is that the Tahitians arrived

539
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probably I think in the twelve twelve

540
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hundreds ad and they like you know big

541
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Polynesian people but they encountered a

542
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:22,550
much more peaceful race there called the

543
00:24:27,370 --> 00:24:25,700
move or it's been altered in modern

544
00:24:29,620 --> 00:24:27,380
times they're called Menehune but the

545
00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:29,630
ancient name is the move as in mula

546
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,660
Moria and they supposedly had been there

547
00:24:37,570 --> 00:24:35,120
for forever and like with a lot of

548
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:37,580
contact of one culture to another

549
00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:41,600
they were decimated to some degree and

550
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,270
also interbred with the arriving

551
00:24:46,990 --> 00:24:46,400
Tahitians and that's why to this very

552
00:24:49,390 --> 00:24:47,000
day

553
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:49,400
there are people who live in Hawaii

554
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:53,679
especially on the island of the cold

555
00:25:02,110 --> 00:24:58,730
Cola Bay and the west coast of Hawaii

556
00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:02,120
who have dark red hair and they trace

557
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:05,300
their ancestry back to the pre Tahitian

558
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:08,150
people and how is this a connection to

559
00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:10,850
places like nan Madol which some people

560
00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:12,950
were claiming to have been made within

561
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:15,230
the last several hundred years but it

562
00:25:19,870 --> 00:25:17,480
still doesn't account for the Giants

563
00:25:22,450 --> 00:25:19,880
multi-ton basalt rocks being you know

564
00:25:24,010 --> 00:25:22,460
taken across open water to a remote

565
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:24,020
location - all of a sudden build this

566
00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:27,440
magical city yeah that's well that's a

567
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:30,620
great point and again when you when we

568
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:33,050
have the tour's part of it part of the

569
00:25:37,180 --> 00:25:34,460
function of the tours of course is to

570
00:25:39,130 --> 00:25:37,190
make money but what what I love more is

571
00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:39,140
getting people of expertise to come with

572
00:25:45,790 --> 00:25:42,340
me so we've had shipwrights with us and

573
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,800
you when you explain the story the

574
00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:48,320
standard stories are well the Egyptian

575
00:25:52,090 --> 00:25:48,860
obelisk

576
00:25:55,150 --> 00:25:52,100
carried down the Nile on giant you know

577
00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:55,160
reed boats or the stones of puma punku

578
00:26:00,340 --> 00:25:57,260
were brought across lake titicaca by

579
00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:00,350
people who made reed boats they just

580
00:26:05,049 --> 00:26:02,179
break out laughing because they say you

581
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:05,059
can't build something that can carry 40

582
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:07,730
or 100 tons without sinking out of reeds

583
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:11,390
it's ridiculous so I maybe I just lost

584
00:26:15,310 --> 00:26:12,770
the train of thought there but

585
00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:15,320
another point I did want to make is you

586
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:18,350
were talking about the it's scientific

587
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,390
fact now that 12,000 years ago the

588
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,360
entire oceans of the world were 300 feet

589
00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:26,480
lower than they are today and so when

590
00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:28,070
you look at a topographical map of

591
00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:32,660
Hawaii the island of Lanai coleauxv a

592
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:33,620
mola

593
00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:37,640
yeah well all of the islands basically

594
00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:39,260
would have been connected to each other

595
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:44,750
except maybe Big Island but that 12,000

596
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:47,840
years ago would be a big landmass and so

597
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:50,290
I think that's where the MU reference is

598
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:56,330
I think Hawaii was actually mu and some

599
00:27:01,960 --> 00:26:59,090
of the Hawaiian elders have told me that

600
00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:01,970
they you know we don't believe this idea

601
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:03,950
that the Tahitians came here and they

602
00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:06,350
were solely our ancestors we're the ones

603
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:09,590
who went there for Hearst so again going

604
00:27:15,790 --> 00:27:12,460
back to your your statement of

605
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:15,800
inhabitation on the Hawaiian Islands

606
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:19,370
possibly 25,000 plus years ago and how

607
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:21,170
does this connect to let's say the the

608
00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:23,530
pakoras people or the the via courier

609
00:27:29,620 --> 00:27:27,350
coaches where the viewer or Asha said

610
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:29,630
the Viracocha because that word can can

611
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:33,110
be used as as a term for Viracocha

612
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,410
himself or his his followers so it is

613
00:27:41,290 --> 00:27:38,960
there is their connection between the

614
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:41,300
the para caste people and the Viera

615
00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:43,640
coach or are these potentially two

616
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:46,780
completely distinct groups or peoples

617
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:48,850
that's really hard to know the important

618
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:52,300
point and again this comes from learning

619
00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:54,130
from local not like the best thing is

620
00:27:59,730 --> 00:27:56,800
local knowledge it's not from some

621
00:28:02,580 --> 00:27:59,740
academic test text of supposition blah

622
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:02,590
blah blah but viracocha is the name of

623
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:06,940
the Creator God so Viracocha was wasn't

624
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:10,510
is maybe an invisible deity but he sent

625
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:13,390
his children called the Veera Kochan or

626
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:15,070
the winter coach and to be great

627
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:17,830
teachers and the little that's known

628
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:19,180
about them now is that they were

629
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:22,030
supposedly very tall they came from a

630
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:25,120
very distant land where I believe where

631
00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:28,510
the Sun said it's either they came from

632
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:30,340
the land where the Sun sets or the land

633
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:33,070
where the Sun rises and they were

634
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:35,530
supposedly light-skinned very tall very

635
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:38,410
intelligent and they spent a limited

636
00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:41,470
time with the local people of Peru in

637
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:43,740
order to educate them in regards

638
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:46,330
agriculture metallurgy you know all the

639
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:50,170
sciences and arts and they departed from

640
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,440
the north coast of Peru where the border

641
00:28:58,890 --> 00:28:56,080
with Ecuador is but another interesting

642
00:29:02,250 --> 00:28:58,900
twist is very culture means the foam of

643
00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:02,260
the sea and supposedly the story is they

644
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:04,870
left and left behind the foam of the sea

645
00:29:10,650 --> 00:29:07,960
but another twist on the story is that

646
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:10,660
when they arrived they said we come from

647
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:13,630
the foam of the sea may be hinting that

648
00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:17,890
their landmass had sunk and knowing that

649
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:20,560
that even the imagery of the Viracocha

650
00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:25,420
is seen throughout South America I'm not

651
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:27,280
sure if you're familiar with Richard

652
00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:30,220
Casares work he's he's found the you

653
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:32,920
know he's found the same imagery of the

654
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:37,330
very kocha or even Quetzalcoatl all the

655
00:29:44,610 --> 00:29:39,010
routes you know all throughout the

656
00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:44,620
adriatic the the not the adriatic i'm

657
00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:46,300
croatian so i always go to the adriatic

658
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:49,240
as the mean as the main seat there I can

659
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:51,130
understand why I spent a month in

660
00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:54,370
Dubrovnik and loved the weather the food

661
00:30:01,340 --> 00:29:59,330
the women all of the above

662
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:01,350
thank goodness my wife does not listen

663
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:05,580
or watch this show we're not going back

664
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:10,980
home with this imagery being seen

665
00:30:14,539 --> 00:30:13,230
throughout there I'm going to touch her

666
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:14,549
and go back to Taipei just because every

667
00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:16,080
single time we say that everyone takes a

668
00:30:20,779 --> 00:30:17,940
shot at some point then when I mess up a

669
00:30:22,669 --> 00:30:20,789
name so thankfully that I have to give I

670
00:30:25,090 --> 00:30:22,679
have to give the the people just you

671
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,100
know a little bit of a taste today

672
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:28,320
the hand signals around the Buried

673
00:30:34,190 --> 00:30:31,590
statues of easter island where it's it's

674
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:34,200
situated around the navel that same

675
00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:38,039
style of placement around the navel is

676
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,309
seen at Gobekli tapping right as well

677
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:44,159
and I'm going to use it as somewhat of a

678
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:45,960
transition into the the next subject

679
00:30:51,139 --> 00:30:48,990
matter which is the testing of the

680
00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:51,149
skulls which I know helps is something

681
00:30:55,159 --> 00:30:53,700
that and being able to link back to that

682
00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:55,169
statement as well which is pretty cool

683
00:31:01,789 --> 00:30:59,370
um with the current connection to the

684
00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:01,799
Native peoples the testings that you've

685
00:31:05,930 --> 00:31:04,020
performed beforehand I know that there

686
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,940
were were two sets of testings one is

687
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:08,159
being announced on the second and you've

688
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:10,529
done one which you recently released and

689
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:12,120
you you sent me the the video this

690
00:31:17,139 --> 00:31:13,559
afternoon I'm just gonna try and see if

691
00:31:20,299 --> 00:31:17,149
I can bring that up but that was from

692
00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:20,309
callings of yours which had documented

693
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:25,380
the entire process so what what did you

694
00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:27,000
find as far as a connection to the

695
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:29,460
current peoples that are there and is

696
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:32,970
there a like were you surprised by the

697
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:37,740
the first set of testing yeah I was

698
00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:40,830
we-well Marzulli and I and and the

699
00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:44,360
others involved in those tests

700
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:46,140
unfortunately there were only four

701
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:48,510
samples because just because of

702
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:51,690
circumstances but the the DNA results

703
00:32:00,860 --> 00:31:55,970
came from hair and the hair was

704
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:00,870
sterilized as in as in all the surface

705
00:32:05,779 --> 00:32:03,210
was was cleaned like it was a kind of

706
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:05,789
detergent or acetone or something that

707
00:32:10,370 --> 00:32:08,370
was used in in the professional lab in

708
00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:10,380
order to remove any bacteria any

709
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:11,660
fingerprints

710
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:14,010
anybody breathing on the samples or

711
00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:15,510
anything like that so there's no way

712
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:17,790
there was any contamination but the

713
00:32:24,220 --> 00:32:20,550
results that showed up were not Native

714
00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:24,230
American in all four samples whatsoever

715
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:30,140
one of the results was u2e 1 which is

716
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,170
Scandinavia and then another was h1

717
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:36,240
which is the Middle East and Eastern

718
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:38,850
Europe and the other one was h2 be I

719
00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:41,250
think which again is that same kind of

720
00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:44,150
area so those three samples showed no

721
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:46,740
Native American characteristics or

722
00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:48,930
haplogroups whatsoever and so that's why

723
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:52,200
the release will be doing on February

724
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:54,120
2nd is very impossible because there I

725
00:32:58,820 --> 00:32:56,700
think or is very important because there

726
00:33:01,670 --> 00:32:58,830
I think there was something like 30 or

727
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:01,680
40 samples belly Marzulli won't tell me

728
00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:03,090
because he knows I'll blab it all over

729
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:05,070
the internet beforehand but he he's

730
00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:07,830
hinted to me that the the sample size is

731
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:09,900
at least 10 times of what we did before

732
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:12,930
and the results are showing the same

733
00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:16,380
kind of patterns we also I'm also going

734
00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:20,220
to presenting some blood type data which

735
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:22,830
I was recently given and that again

736
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,480
indicates non not 100% Native American

737
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:29,600
because all people

738
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:33,480
pre-columbian from Mexico all the way

739
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:34,830
down to the southern tip of South

740
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,390
America were 100% type O and that again

741
00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:41,700
goes with the theory of crossing the

742
00:33:46,790 --> 00:33:44,520
Bering Land Bridge and walking through

743
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Canada than the United States and Mexico

744
00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:49,050
and through Central America to get to

745
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:51,060
South America but the the results from

746
00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:54,480
these two studies are that if nothing

747
00:33:59,450 --> 00:33:56,580
else these ancient practice people were

748
00:34:02,810 --> 00:33:59,460
a very complicated ethnic mix of people

749
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:02,820
from different parts of the world 1,500

750
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:04,760
years before Columbus discovered America

751
00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:08,460
and with you had a very large team and I

752
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:09,990
know that the watching the video that

753
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:16,880
reverence and awe because you had

754
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:18,330
mention that the team just started to

755
00:34:23,630 --> 00:34:22,200
grow and start to gain just steam with

756
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:23,640
the amount of expertise that was brought

757
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:25,169
on such as well you there was yourself

758
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:25,390
there

759
00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:28,500
dr. Leir Marzulli I know that

760
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:31,060
monochromes Alice was also involved you

761
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,890
had several individuals one of them was

762
00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:34,480
actually a forensic expert that you

763
00:34:39,090 --> 00:34:36,280
brought on which bagged and tagged

764
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:39,100
everything as if for a crime scene to

765
00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:41,890
make sure that there was no that there

766
00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:44,500
was no contamination of the samples in

767
00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:46,630
which exactly and it to me that that

768
00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:48,400
shows a level of transparency initial

769
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:50,740
ever level of credibility that we may

770
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:52,570
not necessarily see in the alternative

771
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:54,850
history field and in certain areas and

772
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,760
you know I will mentioned thee that

773
00:35:00,510 --> 00:34:58,960
there was a mummy that was in the news

774
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:00,520
recently which I'm not going to name

775
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:03,790
where from where are the results and the

776
00:35:07,860 --> 00:35:06,490
scientific analysis of may not have been

777
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:07,870
is up front is what you're doing here

778
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:11,830
and I know that there are individuals

779
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:14,170
and when I was talking about with

780
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:15,400
certain friends of mine that we were

781
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:17,500
doing this show or and I'd mentioned it

782
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:19,090
and some of them have pay attention to

783
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:21,010
what I'm doing and some people

784
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:26,820
answer and they say well it's not aliens

785
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:28,630
well why does it have to be aliens why

786
00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:31,230
cannot can it can't it be a branch of

787
00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:34,270
you know non Homo sapiens sapiens and in

788
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:35,320
the line that we haven't discovered yet

789
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,660
why can't we have very intelligent and

790
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,000
and people of ingenuity from ancient

791
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:42,640
times and from even deep antiquity that

792
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,110
we may not have discovered or known

793
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:47,520
about yet well that's a great point and

794
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:50,410
it's with the discovery of Neanderthal

795
00:35:59,100 --> 00:35:54,910
and cro-magnon and florensis from

796
00:36:00,990 --> 00:35:59,110
Indonesia and the Denisovans what it

797
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:01,000
shows us is that homo sapiens sapiens

798
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:04,330
are is a very nasty species of being and

799
00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:09,310
any anybody who has any territory has a

800
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:11,560
tendency to lose the territory and lose

801
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:14,140
their lives so that's the theory what

802
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:16,090
we're working on it's quite clear that

803
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,840
the little florensis people of Indonesia

804
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:22,320
were wiped out by Homo sapiens sapiens

805
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:25,260
probably Neanderthal was as well

806
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:28,270
Denisovans probably as well so it is

807
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:29,770
quite possible and that's why the

808
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:30,910
results are going to be quite

809
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:33,070
fascinating with the team of experts we

810
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:34,990
have I think there eight of us giving

811
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:38,130
talks on February 2nd

812
00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:41,460
to see the possibility that maybe the

813
00:36:46,789 --> 00:36:44,430
practice were a subspecies of humanity

814
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:46,799
that had to escape their territory

815
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:49,529
because they were under attack naturally

816
00:36:53,809 --> 00:36:51,750
if you if you're able to and close to

817
00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:53,819
the ocean you leave by some kind of boat

818
00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:56,940
to get away and then you wander until

819
00:37:01,160 --> 00:36:58,980
you can find a new homeland and that's

820
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:01,170
that's the theory I'm working on and

821
00:37:06,339 --> 00:37:03,450
have been for two or three years and was

822
00:37:09,049 --> 00:37:06,349
that they were outcasts and they had to

823
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:09,059
re-establish themselves when they found

824
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:10,710
the coast of Peru here there was

825
00:37:15,049 --> 00:37:12,660
basically nobody living here so it was

826
00:37:18,339 --> 00:37:15,059
perfect for them and for some reason the

827
00:37:21,499 --> 00:37:18,349
piranhas were absolute experts at desert

828
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:21,509
agriculture so in some ways I think

829
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:23,250
that's a connection to the Middle East

830
00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:25,890
because we have thousands of date-palms

831
00:37:32,359 --> 00:37:28,740
that nobody could explain where they

832
00:37:34,759 --> 00:37:32,369
came from they produce 50 to 100 pounds

833
00:37:38,809 --> 00:37:34,769
of dates each the dates drop on the

834
00:37:41,299 --> 00:37:38,819
ground and rot nobody collects them so

835
00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:41,309
the standard stories that the Spanish

836
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:43,470
brought them but there's no historical

837
00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:45,420
record of anybody ever using them for

838
00:37:50,749 --> 00:37:48,630
anything but dates to a Middle Eastern

839
00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:50,759
society and the date palm is an

840
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:54,420
incredibly sacred complicated useful

841
00:37:59,240 --> 00:37:56,730
plant I have family that live in the

842
00:38:00,980 --> 00:37:59,250
Algarve and I spent a week up there when

843
00:38:04,819 --> 00:38:00,990
I actually I brought my wife there to

844
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:04,829
propose to her and my friend had a date

845
00:38:09,319 --> 00:38:08,130
tree in his garden and we would

846
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:09,329
regularly in the morning just go out and

847
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:10,380
collect the dates that were there and

848
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,990
use it for breakfast so the fact that

849
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:15,359
these aren't being collected it's it's

850
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,369
it doesn't seem to nest your what you're

851
00:38:20,509 --> 00:38:18,960
indicating doesn't seem to have it

852
00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:20,519
necessarily within ingrained within

853
00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:22,799
their culture or with them the tradition

854
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:24,180
to say okay well you've got dates here

855
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:25,890
let's eat them it's more of a nuisance

856
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:29,150
not necessarily of food so yeah yeah

857
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:32,250
again it's that's a historical mystery

858
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,609
that I'm trying to and it's only one

859
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:36,720
characteristic of these ancient people

860
00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:38,609
that is is very fascinating they were

861
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:42,180
also incredible masters of making very

862
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:45,690
thin pottery as if made on a potter's

863
00:38:49,819 --> 00:38:46,890
wheel

864
00:38:50,809 --> 00:38:49,829
no no Mesoamerican people is supposed to

865
00:38:52,729 --> 00:38:50,819
have ever known

866
00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:52,739
potter's wheel the potter's wheel was

867
00:38:57,499 --> 00:38:54,839
invented in the Middle East they also

868
00:38:59,900 --> 00:38:57,509
knew how to tie dye which you know is

869
00:39:03,589 --> 00:38:59,910
something which doesn't fit in the Royal

870
00:39:05,479 --> 00:39:03,599
people lived in underground houses and I

871
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:05,489
think the reasoning for that is that it

872
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:08,400
it reigns half an inch of year or half

873
00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:11,369
an inch a year in Caracas and so I

874
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,619
honestly think they had lighter skin and

875
00:39:18,499 --> 00:39:15,839
had to live underground in order to keep

876
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:18,509
from being burnt on a daily basis but

877
00:39:23,659 --> 00:39:21,150
they the other anomalies just keep going

878
00:39:25,999 --> 00:39:23,669
on and on and on and there's no academic

879
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:26,009
I know of that's actually looking at

880
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:28,529
this stuff well you're you're the only

881
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:30,479
one year that you were the main face of

882
00:39:36,739 --> 00:39:34,410
the South American would assume the

883
00:39:40,249 --> 00:39:36,749
South American mystery our cultural

884
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:40,259
mystery which is unfortunately a lot of

885
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,140
it had been wiped out based on the

886
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:45,839
Spanish conquistadors drama in South

887
00:39:50,769 --> 00:39:48,569
America so I know that with the the Maya

888
00:39:55,279 --> 00:39:50,779
a lot of their history was actually

889
00:39:56,809 --> 00:39:55,289
written down while the Holocaust and to

890
00:39:59,409 --> 00:39:56,819
be honest it was a Holocaust with with

891
00:40:01,909 --> 00:39:59,419
millions of people upon that were

892
00:40:03,099 --> 00:40:01,919
devastated by by their coming to this

893
00:40:04,909 --> 00:40:03,109
continent

894
00:40:06,739 --> 00:40:04,919
that it was actually written down

895
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:06,749
afterwards through the oral tradition

896
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:08,609
because it had to be otherwise we

897
00:40:13,819 --> 00:40:11,579
wouldn't have known anything so even

898
00:40:19,249 --> 00:40:13,829
with the oral traditions that are there

899
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:19,259
now what oral traditions are the locals

900
00:40:25,459 --> 00:40:22,049
saying about the skulls themselves and

901
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:25,469
how did you get permission to actually

902
00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:28,030
examine them

903
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:31,840
well the great thing is that because I

904
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:34,900
was fascinated by the skulls after my

905
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:36,610
first trip to practice we were only

906
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:39,730
there for three days I think and the

907
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:41,650
weather here is just so wonderful that

908
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:43,510
my wife and I after a period of time

909
00:40:48,270 --> 00:40:46,450
decided that Lima sucks is a place to

910
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:48,280
live because it's a population of 11

911
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:50,350
million people it's just you know it's

912
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,750
quite awful most of it some nice

913
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:54,880
neighborhoods but we decided well why

914
00:40:59,760 --> 00:40:56,650
don't we spend more time in practice and

915
00:41:03,150 --> 00:40:59,770
then I became the assistant director of

916
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:03,160
the museum senior Juan Navarro and I

917
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:06,160
would constantly go out in the field

918
00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:08,700
because he had been studying this stuff

919
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:12,040
for more than 40 years and he knew every

920
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,890
location of every practice settlement so

921
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:16,960
over the course of about seven years we

922
00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:20,680
visited every single site in some cases

923
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:23,230
we found some artifacts for the museum

924
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:28,240
but yeah it's just because because I I'm

925
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:32,050
as curious as a cat and because they're

926
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:35,320
almost is no literature whatsoever about

927
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:38,080
these people I just decided well maybe I

928
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:40,330
can figure out you know what's going on

929
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:42,010
with this and then through connecting

930
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:44,530
with la Marzulli who was able to get

931
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,510
someone to donate a hundred thousand

932
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:48,640
dollars to do the DNA test date you know

933
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:51,910
on and on it goes that you know that's

934
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:53,650
who we're in the position we're in

935
00:42:00,570 --> 00:41:57,280
because we're we have access to great

936
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:00,580
people like like Elie Marzulli and also

937
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:01,960
the local people who still remember

938
00:42:08,190 --> 00:42:06,340
certain aspects of the history so it's

939
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:08,200
like weaving an ancient story back

940
00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:10,450
together again in the field it's it's a

941
00:42:15,450 --> 00:42:13,630
lot of fun for me in I know that I watch

942
00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:15,460
the video and the video was just

943
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:18,040
released about an hour before you and I

944
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:20,470
connected on skype writing can you give

945
00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:22,390
me a brief rundown of the process that

946
00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:23,980
you used to at least the song the

947
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:26,190
scientific process that you used to

948
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:30,010
document the the analysis okay well

949
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:31,300
that's a great point because then

950
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:34,800
there's been almost zero carbon-14

951
00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:38,740
testing of artifacts of the Baracus

952
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:42,040
Peru doesn't have great forensic stuff

953
00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:48,160
now that is Bolivia so what happened was

954
00:42:53,970 --> 00:42:51,700
with the initial samples for samples

955
00:42:55,950 --> 00:42:53,980
that we had tested and that was by

956
00:42:57,930 --> 00:42:55,960
permission from senior Juan who owns a

957
00:43:01,830 --> 00:42:57,940
private Museum which is a private

958
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,840
collection then that GRU drew worldwide

959
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:04,480
attention and so we decided well four

960
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:06,340
samples is not a good sample size we

961
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:09,760
need like 50 30 40 50 or something so we

962
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:11,710
contacted the Ministry of Culture of

963
00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:15,010
Peru and said that we wanted to do some

964
00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:18,790
DNA studies we would finance the whole

965
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:24,070
thing and so dr. Ruben Soto accepted our

966
00:43:28,770 --> 00:43:26,770
offer I asked him two simple questions I

967
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:28,780
said do you know where the practice came

968
00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:30,340
from and do you know why they had red

969
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,820
hair and he said no I said well if we do

970
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:35,920
scientific analysis we can find out for

971
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,290
you you can be in charge of the study

972
00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:41,680
and so he said okay and so he he

973
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,140
actually is in charge of the DNA testing

974
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:46,720
process so it's a Peruvian working for

975
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:48,820
the Peruvian government and the results

976
00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:52,510
go to the Peruvian government after the

977
00:43:58,650 --> 00:43:55,360
release of the on February the 2nd so

978
00:44:01,830 --> 00:43:58,660
after a 30 month process of paperwork we

979
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:01,840
got permission to take samples and so la

980
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:04,210
and his forensic crew and film crew came

981
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:07,830
down and they took samples from multiple

982
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:11,200
skulls in the iike regional Museum and

983
00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:13,170
also the little Caracas

984
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:15,430
excuse me private Museum of Senor

985
00:44:21,090 --> 00:44:18,700
Navarro and took them back and submitted

986
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:21,100
them to two laboratories two of the top

987
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:22,990
of the top ten in the world one in

988
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:28,270
Canada and one in California and so it's

989
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:29,890
been it's you know it's been a process

990
00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:32,650
of a lot of money a lot of retesting

991
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:34,540
because some of the samples were so

992
00:44:40,020 --> 00:44:36,610
badly degraded they had to enhance them

993
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,030
which cost a lot more money but that's

994
00:44:45,980 --> 00:44:42,160
why we're very happy to announce that we

995
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:45,990
have sufficient data now for a global

996
00:44:52,529 --> 00:44:50,530
release on February the second and so

997
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:52,539
that's why the six-minute video

998
00:44:59,370 --> 00:44:57,400
it's like the initial teaser for giving

999
00:45:02,120 --> 00:44:59,380
people an indication of what's coming

1000
00:45:05,099 --> 00:45:02,130
now the interesting thing that I found

1001
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,109
and a minor to say it's interesting the

1002
00:45:11,339 --> 00:45:07,359
noble thing that I found is that

1003
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:11,349
admission to this symposium it's free

1004
00:45:17,849 --> 00:45:13,660
you're you're not charging anybody to

1005
00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:17,859
actually see these results and again

1006
00:45:20,729 --> 00:45:19,269
Friday for every the second so everyone

1007
00:45:23,699 --> 00:45:20,739
can cut out of work early on the Pacific

1008
00:45:25,439 --> 00:45:23,709
coast 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. and that's

1009
00:45:27,929 --> 00:45:25,449
at the Marriott's in Los Angeles

1010
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:27,939
actually the Los Angeles Airport 580

1011
00:45:32,189 --> 00:45:30,910
yeah so I've been there I think or at

1012
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:32,199
least I've been nearby I've I've gone

1013
00:45:37,979 --> 00:45:34,630
from one you know from one Airport to

1014
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:37,989
the other to to Bradley a love LA the

1015
00:45:41,099 --> 00:45:39,249
the weather is fantastic

1016
00:45:46,049 --> 00:45:41,109
especially coming from you know a place

1017
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:46,059
where it's -46 sometimes oh you well

1018
00:45:49,259 --> 00:45:47,410
you're out from the west coast like you

1019
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:49,269
grew up in BC I'm not sure if you've

1020
00:45:57,229 --> 00:45:51,729
ever been to Ottawa before it's oh yes I

1021
00:45:59,579 --> 00:45:57,239
have much my sister who lives there oh

1022
00:46:03,449 --> 00:45:59,589
well then you know exactly how bloody

1023
00:46:04,739 --> 00:46:03,459
hard I can get out next next time you're

1024
00:46:06,179 --> 00:46:04,749
down I'll make sure I can get you Tim's

1025
00:46:10,019 --> 00:46:06,189
so to be able to acclimate you to the

1026
00:46:13,289 --> 00:46:10,029
weather well that's why Canadians are

1027
00:46:15,299 --> 00:46:13,299
tough people well and you know the tough

1028
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:15,309
people who ask tough questions and I'm

1029
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:17,169
very grateful at you that you are taking

1030
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:19,900
the time this afternoon normally we'd be

1031
00:46:23,969 --> 00:46:22,569
able to to ask some questions of the

1032
00:46:27,689 --> 00:46:23,979
audience obviously since this is

1033
00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:27,699
pre-recorded I am I have people who are

1034
00:46:30,569 --> 00:46:29,439
absolutely flabbergasting to like a Kris

1035
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:30,579
we know you're gonna answer all the good

1036
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:34,209
ones so for anybody who is you know if

1037
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:36,130
I'm getting some in I'm still waiting

1038
00:46:40,439 --> 00:46:38,169
for a couple so I'm gonna be able to

1039
00:46:42,329 --> 00:46:40,449
circle back to that one aspect which I

1040
00:46:45,059 --> 00:46:42,339
touched on earlier which was the

1041
00:46:47,699 --> 00:46:45,069
connection between Rapa Nui and angle

1042
00:46:51,509 --> 00:46:47,709
BEC we tap a what when when you first

1043
00:46:53,189 --> 00:46:51,519
saw the saw the designs of the stones

1044
00:46:54,959 --> 00:46:53,199
that go back at f/8 and so that they're

1045
00:46:56,759 --> 00:46:54,969
at anthropomorphic and saw the hand

1046
00:46:59,309 --> 00:46:56,769
placement what was you the first thing

1047
00:47:02,219 --> 00:46:59,319
that went through your mind the

1048
00:47:06,149 --> 00:47:02,229
indication to me is that they're they're

1049
00:47:08,099 --> 00:47:06,159
referencing the source quite often in in

1050
00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:08,109
play

1051
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:10,660
for example the name of cuzco means the

1052
00:47:16,650 --> 00:47:13,750
navel of the world robbing newest proper

1053
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:16,660
translation which is Tepito taihen OA

1054
00:47:23,609 --> 00:47:19,660
means the navel of the world meaning

1055
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:23,619
that that was where the culture evolved

1056
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:26,170
from or that that was the central focus

1057
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:28,330
of the culture so that was my initial

1058
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:33,400
impression is that just like us our

1059
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:36,010
navel was connected you know Norman

1060
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:39,130
that's where we come out of mom you know

1061
00:47:44,609 --> 00:47:42,460
connected that I think that's Timmy is

1062
00:47:47,579 --> 00:47:44,619
the cultural reference that they're

1063
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:47,589
referring to and this is going to it I

1064
00:47:50,849 --> 00:47:48,670
know it's like it's a very short

1065
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:50,859
question for a very complicated answer

1066
00:47:55,230 --> 00:47:53,020
possibly but do you think that there is

1067
00:47:58,740 --> 00:47:55,240
a connection between gobekli tepe and

1068
00:48:00,900 --> 00:47:58,750
Easter Island no the problem is that I

1069
00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:00,910
haven't been yet to gobekli tepe they

1070
00:48:05,370 --> 00:48:03,099
shut it down about six months ago and

1071
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:05,380
they put a roof on it and supposedly

1072
00:48:10,650 --> 00:48:07,570
it's opening up again soon and and Isis

1073
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:10,660
was pretty close you know to it but

1074
00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:13,750
within the next couple of years through

1075
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,540
patricia are we on in egypt of the Kim

1076
00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:18,400
at school I think I think we're gonna

1077
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:20,230
organize the tour there which would be

1078
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:25,450
great but because I I I tend not to try

1079
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:27,550
to discuss places I've never been to

1080
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:29,260
because the difference between looking

1081
00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:31,150
at a picture or video or reading a book

1082
00:48:38,339 --> 00:48:35,320
and being there in real life is like

1083
00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:38,349
completely different so I'm gonna have

1084
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:41,980
to wait to before I can make any kind of

1085
00:48:47,849 --> 00:48:44,770
comparison and that would go to your

1086
00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:47,859
credibility as a researcher without

1087
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:50,380
making any wild speculation I know that

1088
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:52,690
at least and again I've never been to

1089
00:48:58,859 --> 00:48:56,970
either place myself I know that there is

1090
00:49:05,000 --> 00:48:58,869
I'm trying to remember the name of the

1091
00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:05,010
lost civilization from the subcontinent

1092
00:49:12,580 --> 00:49:08,680
slipping my mind I can't believe this in

1093
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:12,590
from India the

1094
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:16,270
Indus Valley Civilisation oh there were

1095
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:19,760
indications from certain individuals

1096
00:49:22,780 --> 00:49:21,170
that I knew and I'm I'm trying to member

1097
00:49:24,190 --> 00:49:22,790
if it was layered Scranton himself or

1098
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:24,200
was somebody else who had actually told

1099
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,230
me who knew layered it I think it was

1100
00:49:33,790 --> 00:49:29,680
actually John Michael John Michael Greer

1101
00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:33,800
who is a alternative history researcher

1102
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:37,340
he's also kind of one of the world's if

1103
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:39,110
you need to know about esoteric

1104
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,780
symbolism you ask him oh he's a druid

1105
00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:44,240
you know he's a former Arch Druid he's a

1106
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:46,340
32nd degree freemason he you know this

1107
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,930
is stuff he's been doing for 20 years

1108
00:49:51,490 --> 00:49:49,760
now and he had indicated that the

1109
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:51,500
language that is found in the Indus

1110
00:49:57,820 --> 00:49:53,110
Valley actually may have a connection to

1111
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:57,830
the rongorongo script in Easter Island

1112
00:50:01,090 --> 00:49:59,570
and I'm not sure if this is something

1113
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:01,100
you've looked into yourself because

1114
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:03,350
you've spoken on the script extensively

1115
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:06,640
yourself no what have you seen as far as

1116
00:50:11,950 --> 00:50:10,250
similarities to other scripts and have

1117
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,960
you been told what they actually say

1118
00:50:17,170 --> 00:50:14,000
have you asked very nicely and gently

1119
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:17,180
who to the native peoples of the area

1120
00:50:23,170 --> 00:50:19,850
what those what that script actually may

1121
00:50:28,030 --> 00:50:23,180
mean as far as I know none of them know

1122
00:50:30,820 --> 00:50:28,040
what it means and visiting Rapa Nui

1123
00:50:33,010 --> 00:50:30,830
it's fascinating because again those

1124
00:50:34,510 --> 00:50:33,020
that know stuff if you can get them in

1125
00:50:37,450 --> 00:50:34,520
your confidence they tell you the most

1126
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:37,460
amazing stop the you know stuff no

1127
00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:40,070
archaeology archaeologist has ever as

1128
00:50:44,620 --> 00:50:41,720
far as they know interviewed any of the

1129
00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:44,630
native people of the island so that

1130
00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:46,550
that's pissed off the people of Rapa Nui

1131
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:51,190
but if you do look at the symbolism

1132
00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:54,530
rongorongo looks really similar to that

1133
00:50:59,800 --> 00:50:56,870
at the Indus Valley and then again when

1134
00:51:03,790 --> 00:50:59,810
you get into the idea that when von

1135
00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:03,800
Roggeveen arrived in on the island who

1136
00:51:09,070 --> 00:51:07,160
named it Easter Island he his or one of

1137
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:09,080
his crew members descriptions of the

1138
00:51:14,740 --> 00:51:12,110
people was there are tall people and

1139
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:14,750
short people dark-skinned people and

1140
00:51:19,330 --> 00:51:17,090
light-skinned people black haired people

1141
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:19,340
red haired people and blonde haired

1142
00:51:24,910 --> 00:51:22,670
people so the original inhabitants of

1143
00:51:26,350 --> 00:51:24,920
that area obviously were very a very

1144
00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:26,360
complex mix and

1145
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:28,280
if they weren't just the Polynesians

1146
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:29,720
there was somebody else was there or

1147
00:51:36,670 --> 00:51:32,810
others and so again when you have that

1148
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,680
connection with with Persia and people

1149
00:51:41,710 --> 00:51:38,960
from Easter Island or sorry from New

1150
00:51:43,630 --> 00:51:41,720
Zealand then I think it's very possible

1151
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:43,640
that ancient people from the Indus

1152
00:51:51,610 --> 00:51:47,870
Valley somehow made it into Polynesia

1153
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:51,620
and wound up on Easter Island maybe as a

1154
00:51:57,250 --> 00:51:53,990
refuge and I think they brought their

1155
00:52:01,090 --> 00:51:57,260
script with them but then they may have

1156
00:52:02,350 --> 00:52:01,100
died off and then the the symbolism or

1157
00:52:05,230 --> 00:52:02,360
meeting meaning could have either

1158
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:05,240
changed or been reinterpreted but I do

1159
00:52:10,570 --> 00:52:07,310
think there was a connection too often

1160
00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:10,580
people say well there's you know there's

1161
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:13,640
a symbol of a snake in England and

1162
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:15,410
there's a symbol of a snake in India

1163
00:52:19,630 --> 00:52:17,510
they must be connected it's like there's

1164
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:19,640
too much of that going on but I think

1165
00:52:23,410 --> 00:52:21,350
the Indus Valley connection is quite

1166
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:23,420
plausible and one of the questions I'm

1167
00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:26,930
receiving is with regards to something

1168
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:29,240
that you may have presented at one point

1169
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:31,130
or another in in the past and this was

1170
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:35,020
with regards to the very kocha symbolism

1171
00:52:41,830 --> 00:52:39,830
specifically the Jaguar style tiers

1172
00:52:44,410 --> 00:52:41,840
which some people have said represents

1173
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,420
crying for lost land I know that you

1174
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:46,400
believe that to be something or at least

1175
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:47,450
at one point to believe that to be

1176
00:52:51,130 --> 00:52:48,530
something different how have you looked

1177
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:51,140
into that yourself and have you come to

1178
00:52:58,020 --> 00:52:53,770
a more clear answer on that

1179
00:53:00,090 --> 00:52:58,030
yeah that actually the symbolism at puma

1180
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:00,100
punku and tiwanaku which is where you

1181
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:04,110
find most of the symbols of Viracocha

1182
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:07,030
most of them are so badly eroded that

1183
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:11,590
it's difficult to make out the you know

1184
00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:13,300
specifically what you're looking at

1185
00:53:19,859 --> 00:53:17,350
those those appeared actually in the few

1186
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:19,869
decent pieces of sculpture that still

1187
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:22,030
exists that are in half good shape

1188
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:24,910
because of the climate the age etc they

1189
00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:27,610
appear to be the shape the eyes appear

1190
00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:30,580
to be the shape of Pumas heads and then

1191
00:53:37,170 --> 00:53:33,460
you see those dots coming down whether

1192
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:37,180
the dots are tears or not I'm not sure

1193
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:40,450
David Childress believes that it's very

1194
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:43,450
kocha weeping for the lost red land

1195
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:46,390
which could be either Atlantis or or Moo

1196
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:50,020
but for me I'm not not quite sure yet

1197
00:53:56,210 --> 00:53:53,680
and I I know that there is some

1198
00:54:00,660 --> 00:53:56,220
symbolism in Egypt which has signified

1199
00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:00,670
you know elongated skulls and the actual

1200
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:02,520
mummies themselves didn't necessarily

1201
00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:07,270
show the same form of the head what are

1202
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:08,440
some of the indications that you found

1203
00:54:11,970 --> 00:54:09,790
from from your own analysis and from

1204
00:54:13,859 --> 00:54:11,980
documenting the the elongated skulls

1205
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:13,869
that differentiate themselves from our

1206
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:18,310
own you mean the ones in Paris in

1207
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:19,300
Baracus yes

1208
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,180
yeah well the the the depiction of

1209
00:54:27,810 --> 00:54:25,119
elongated heads in eating the Amarna

1210
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:27,820
period which of course is Akhenaten he

1211
00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:30,520
was very he was very much an adept at

1212
00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:31,960
ancient knowledge so I think he was

1213
00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:34,270
doing that to say this is where we come

1214
00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:36,460
from not not that I look like that but

1215
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:38,350
this is where we come from

1216
00:54:43,130 --> 00:54:40,690
of course his mummy has never been found

1217
00:54:46,859 --> 00:54:43,140
Nefertiti's that has never been found

1218
00:54:48,810 --> 00:54:46,869
but the physical characteristics which

1219
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:48,820
are fat are fascinating among the

1220
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:52,150
percentage of baracus which appear to be

1221
00:54:58,830 --> 00:54:54,940
natural-looking are that there is no

1222
00:55:01,530 --> 00:54:58,840
suture line here like we all have a

1223
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:01,540
suture across this way and coming back

1224
00:55:08,190 --> 00:55:04,600
that way in in a t-shape this suture is

1225
00:55:13,570 --> 00:55:08,200
not there so that has

1226
00:55:15,490 --> 00:55:13,580
that's been a fascination to 30-plus

1227
00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:15,500
doctors that I physically shown them to

1228
00:55:21,550 --> 00:55:18,200
here in from the US and Canada and

1229
00:55:24,190 --> 00:55:21,560
Europe etc another aspect is that the

1230
00:55:27,730 --> 00:55:24,200
the eye sockets are 50% larger than

1231
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:27,740
normal and also the foramen magnum which

1232
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,110
is where your vertebral column is final

1233
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:33,440
cord go through in the bottom of your of

1234
00:55:42,010 --> 00:55:38,330
your skull it's so far back that that is

1235
00:55:47,230 --> 00:55:42,020
a genetic difference and that could or I

1236
00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:47,240
think obviously is why or nature did

1237
00:55:52,990 --> 00:55:50,030
that because the skulls have a tendency

1238
00:55:55,450 --> 00:55:53,000
to be conehead shaped and would tend to

1239
00:55:59,070 --> 00:55:55,460
pivot backwards and so in order in order

1240
00:56:01,870 --> 00:55:59,080
to compensate for that nature made the

1241
00:56:04,270 --> 00:56:01,880
that hole in the bottom of the skulls of

1242
00:56:06,670 --> 00:56:04,280
the piranhas farther back there are also

1243
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:06,680
two holes in the back of the skull which

1244
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:08,750
are called foramen and that's where

1245
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:11,150
blood and nerve flow would come out in

1246
00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:14,030
order to feed the upper part of the

1247
00:56:17,620 --> 00:56:15,830
skull and there are other

1248
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:17,630
characteristics which are going to be

1249
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:22,010
discussed during the the conference on

1250
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:24,170
February the second by other other

1251
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:28,640
experts supposedly there are nervous

1252
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,730
system differences on the face which

1253
00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:33,200
would indicate that their facial

1254
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:34,820
expressions were not the same as ours

1255
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:36,830
like they couldn't they couldn't smile

1256
00:56:41,530 --> 00:56:39,050
and frown they didn't have the same

1257
00:56:44,650 --> 00:56:41,540
range of facial expressions that we have

1258
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:44,660
which sounds kind of like an alien

1259
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:46,970
characteristic to me from watching a lot

1260
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:50,270
of B movies but there are yeah there are

1261
00:56:53,170 --> 00:56:51,770
a number of subtleties also there are

1262
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:53,180
little bones in the back of the head

1263
00:56:58,690 --> 00:56:56,510
which only the Royal Inca supposedly had

1264
00:57:02,410 --> 00:56:58,700
and so that could be a genetic

1265
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:02,420
connection with the Inca - and the early

1266
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:04,670
accounts of the Inca are that they were

1267
00:57:11,530 --> 00:57:08,770
a royal family of people with red hair

1268
00:57:14,050 --> 00:57:11,540
so well that's one interesting part

1269
00:57:17,410 --> 00:57:14,060
about the Inca because people tend to

1270
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:17,420
think that the Inca were the entire that

1271
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:18,650
was the name of the entire civilization

1272
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:20,750
and all the people that were there when

1273
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:21,490
in fact it

1274
00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:23,290
supposed to have been referred to the

1275
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:24,640
the inca were supposed to be referred to

1276
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:26,050
the royal family or the royal line is

1277
00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:27,940
that correct yeah that's right it was

1278
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:31,540
only the royal bloodline so and their

1279
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:34,570
origins archeologists will tell you they

1280
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:36,730
don't know exactly where they came from

1281
00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:38,650
there's some history in Lake Titicaca

1282
00:57:44,609 --> 00:57:42,520
but it's not a hundred percent but also

1283
00:57:45,650 --> 00:57:44,619
the the Inca the royal Inca had

1284
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:45,660
elongated heads

1285
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:49,570
I've seen the skulls so yeah the Inca

1286
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:52,480
themselves were a population of at the

1287
00:57:58,590 --> 00:57:54,730
peak of maybe a thousand people who had

1288
00:58:00,859 --> 00:57:58,600
all the high positions as in the the the

1289
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:00,869
high Inca who was the the ruler then the

1290
00:58:05,970 --> 00:58:04,210
the high priest was an Inca and the the

1291
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:05,980
general or the highest in the military

1292
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:11,170
was a was an Inca and the general

1293
00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:15,090
population of 15 million people were of

1294
00:58:21,660 --> 00:58:19,360
many different cultures and genetic

1295
00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:21,670
backgrounds but now this will be a good

1296
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:23,470
question for and I think it may may have

1297
00:58:27,890 --> 00:58:25,210
been one that I don't think you have

1298
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:27,900
been asked at any conference so far

1299
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:31,330
knowing the difference between a an

1300
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:33,070
actual elongated skull and one that had

1301
00:58:36,570 --> 00:58:35,260
head bindings and if you have you been

1302
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:36,580
able to differentiate between the

1303
00:58:43,859 --> 00:58:39,369
classes and if so have you found a

1304
00:58:46,770 --> 00:58:43,869
larger number of bound heads in the

1305
00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:46,780
lower classes within that culture versus

1306
00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:48,280
the actual elongated skulls which were

1307
00:58:54,359 --> 00:58:50,190
supposed to have in the ruling class

1308
00:58:56,070 --> 00:58:54,369
well no all at least on in the practice

1309
00:58:58,890 --> 00:58:56,080
culture here the only people with

1310
00:59:02,090 --> 00:58:58,900
elongated heads were the nobility like

1311
00:59:05,370 --> 00:59:02,100
the chief II class yeah the Chiefs the

1312
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:05,380
religious or spiritual leaders etc the

1313
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:07,450
commoners are all normal-looking because

1314
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:11,470
I've seen numerous graves of common

1315
00:59:16,170 --> 00:59:13,750
people in this area as compared to the

1316
00:59:20,070 --> 00:59:16,180
royal cemeteries where only the

1317
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,080
elongated skull people were buried but

1318
00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:22,000
you know it depends the interesting

1319
00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:24,550
thing is at the last stages of the

1320
00:59:27,930 --> 00:59:26,440
practice culture that's when we have the

1321
00:59:30,330 --> 00:59:27,940
introduction of what are called the

1322
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:30,340
Nazca people famous for the lines and

1323
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:32,200
geoglyphs but they were normal-looking

1324
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:34,050
people so my the theory on

1325
00:59:39,980 --> 00:59:36,990
now is that the Nazca invaded and wiped

1326
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:39,990
out the royal class people because the

1327
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:42,570
red hair disappears when you get into

1328
00:59:49,310 --> 00:59:46,650
the Nazca period the the tallness

1329
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:49,320
disappears and the red yeah the red hair

1330
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:51,480
the long gated skulls and the tonus

1331
00:59:57,020 --> 00:59:53,700
disappear as you get into the Nazca

1332
00:59:59,720 --> 00:59:57,030
culture and also their textiles and

1333
01:00:03,530 --> 00:59:59,730
ceramics are inferior to so that

1334
01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:03,540
indicates to me genocide with this also

1335
01:00:09,380 --> 01:00:07,020
account for why the Nazca lines may have

1336
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:09,390
been done after the or list what you

1337
01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:13,050
would termed a homing beacon which seems

1338
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:15,900
to have been one of the larger geoglyphs

1339
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:18,570
on that side of the continent which is

1340
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,370
essentially the the same as the Southern

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01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:23,040
Cross but a mirror image of it was was

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01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:25,110
that made before the Nazca lines if by

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01:00:28,850 --> 01:00:27,480
this line of thinking or were they made

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01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:28,860
around the same time and then they came

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01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:29,850
in and wiped them out

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01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:32,190
no that's a great point there but the

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01:00:39,740 --> 01:00:36,420
Nazca figures the lines and the

1348
01:00:42,850 --> 01:00:39,750
geoglyphs were made over the course of a

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01:00:47,570 --> 01:00:42,860
thousand years so they were started in

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01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:47,580
500 BCE by the Caracas they made the the

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01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:50,400
candelabra which is 500 feet tall they

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01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:52,950
also made the astronaut which is the one

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01:00:58,340 --> 01:00:55,740
waving in the sky and they made more

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01:01:00,350 --> 01:00:58,350
than a thousand geoglyphs in between

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01:01:03,980 --> 01:01:00,360
practice and Nazca that most people have

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01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:03,990
never heard of then you have about 30 or

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01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:07,140
so of the famous ones aside from the

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01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:09,270
astronaut that were made by the Nazca

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:14,190
people between 100 and 680 okay well

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01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:16,650
thank you very much I'm just making our

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01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:18,660
last round of are there any questions

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01:01:26,420 --> 01:01:20,100
you want me to ask well I've got you on

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01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:26,430
the line to you to our adepts and I'm so

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01:01:30,490 --> 01:01:28,830
at Lee who just joined us late he says

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:30,500
sorry I'm late

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01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:33,090
so if anybody does have any questions

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01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:34,260
you want to be able to ask I can ask

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01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:38,240
Brian now and while those are going on

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01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:40,950
to questions I do have which is and with

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01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:42,900
which isn't with regards to your tours

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01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:44,700
how do people sign up to them how does

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01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:46,480
somebody get involved

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01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:49,180
and if somebody's not in LA cuz trust me

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01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:52,000
I looked into it I can't be there how do

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01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:56,050
i how do we watch well it turns out the

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01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:00,640
tour's my my website of which 95% of the

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01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:04,630
content is free information I'd like to

1378
01:02:09,780 --> 01:02:06,340
change it from its well what it's called

1379
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:09,790
as hidden Inca tours calm I'd like to

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01:02:13,470 --> 01:02:11,410
change the name because unless if it has

1381
01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:13,480
to do with tourists anymore but it's

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01:02:16,530 --> 01:02:14,740
difficult to change the name of a

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01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:16,540
website when it's been ingrained in

1384
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:18,850
people's heads so that that's where you

1385
01:02:24,570 --> 01:02:22,150
find the tours that we do we're actually

1386
01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:24,580
going to Easter Island in October so

1387
01:02:30,090 --> 01:02:26,200
people if they want to conjoin up for

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01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:30,100
that for a week but that's that's where

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01:02:34,530 --> 01:02:32,230
the tours are located but as I said 95%

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01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:34,540
of the content is videos and articles

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01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:37,630
and interviews like this etc that are

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:41,170
100% free and then I forget what the

1393
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:43,810
second half of the question was which

1394
01:02:48,780 --> 01:02:46,720
would be the the symposium on the second

1395
01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:48,790
is there a way for those who are not in

1396
01:02:57,260 --> 01:02:54,070
LA to view this live la Marzulli looked

1397
01:03:00,420 --> 01:02:57,270
into that and it it just wasn't feasible

1398
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:00,430
to do a live broadcast of it

1399
01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:04,000
unfortunately so we're going to be doing

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:06,430
it in a conference room and the whole

1401
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:09,010
thing is going to be filmed by Richard

1402
01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:12,610
Shaw I believe who's the director master

1403
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:14,500
cameraman of the Watchers series that he

1404
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:16,930
and la Marzulli did and so they're going

1405
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:19,810
to produce a DVD that will be available

1406
01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:24,880
to the general public and it won't it it

1407
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,940
won't be very expensive but we have to

1408
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:29,680
charge a fee for it because the DNA

1409
01:03:36,420 --> 01:03:32,020
testing cost more than a hundred

1410
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:36,430
thousand dollars so I will be posting on

1411
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:39,850
my website more and more information as

1412
01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:42,880
regards the results as I said earlier I

1413
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:46,140
haven't seen them the results yet

1414
01:03:51,060 --> 01:03:49,180
because I'm very I'm very bad at

1415
01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:51,070
releasing free information to the public

1416
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:53,260
and some people don't that I work with

1417
01:04:00,240 --> 01:03:58,210
don't like that but the yeah the results

1418
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:00,250
should be or will be very fast

1419
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:02,800
that's why la is making a big big deal

1420
01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:05,980
out of this and then we're also hoping

1421
01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:07,840
to sell enough DVDs to be able to

1422
01:04:15,540 --> 01:04:11,740
conduct a dick here in Paris because

1423
01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:15,550
we've located the 10 acre area where the

1424
01:04:19,950 --> 01:04:17,560
largest elongated skulls in the world

1425
01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:19,960
have been found and so we're hoping to

1426
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:22,180
do a dig with the Ministry of Culture of

1427
01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:25,750
Peru with our head archaeologist here

1428
01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:29,080
being the man in charge of that brunt of

1429
01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:31,390
procedure and what one of our

1430
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:34,390
illustrious masters is asking me what's

1431
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:36,160
the cranial volume of the elongated

1432
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:39,250
skulls compared to a regular normal

1433
01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:42,730
skull well we're going to have to do a

1434
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:44,260
lot more measurements of those that's

1435
01:04:48,930 --> 01:04:46,900
why I'm hoping to get access to the the

1436
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:48,940
collection in the eco regional Museum

1437
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:52,240
because the Baracus museum has 40 45

1438
01:04:57,390 --> 01:04:53,950
skulls of different sizes and shapes

1439
01:04:59,610 --> 01:04:57,400
some are our natural most of them are

1440
01:05:03,900 --> 01:04:59,620
cranial deformation but we have found

1441
01:05:06,740 --> 01:05:03,910
anomalies of as much as 25 to 30% larger

1442
01:05:10,290 --> 01:05:06,750
cranial volume in the practice skulls

1443
01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,300
but if we're able to access our third

1444
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:12,160
collection I think we might find even

1445
01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:15,220
greater differences okay I think I am

1446
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:18,430
getting one one more question in here

1447
01:05:23,070 --> 01:05:20,310
and I do apologize there was we always

1448
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:23,080
seem to get the flood at the end as they

1449
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:26,470
say but while I'm looking for a few

1450
01:05:30,750 --> 01:05:27,550
because I'm getting them through several

1451
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:30,760
different communications aspects want

1452
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:32,050
one of our listeners is asking your

1453
01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:34,210
opinion on Tom DeLonge in his to the

1454
01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:35,380
stars Academy I know it's not

1455
01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:37,390
necessarily your field of research but

1456
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:39,100
have you heard of it and what do you

1457
01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:41,650
think no I've actually never heard of

1458
01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:47,040
that oh okay well then Leo for that

1459
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:50,520
sorry yeah

1460
01:05:56,610 --> 01:05:54,550
see I've got just now just now okay I

1461
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:56,620
know that you're we're going a little

1462
01:05:59,580 --> 01:05:58,450
bit over on the time and I did want to

1463
01:06:01,980 --> 01:05:59,590
thank you very much I know you're a very

1464
01:06:03,390 --> 01:06:01,990
busy guy especially with all the

1465
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:03,400
planning that you have and packing can

1466
01:06:08,340 --> 01:06:06,100
take a while with your travels that are

1467
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:08,350
coming up so I did want to thank you

1468
01:06:11,970 --> 01:06:09,670
very much for your time

1469
01:06:13,799 --> 01:06:11,980
while we sign off and again if you just

1470
01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:13,809
want to weight off just just a

1471
01:06:20,579 --> 01:06:16,839
your moments while I play us out as it

1472
01:06:22,739 --> 01:06:20,589
were with some good music and what I

1473
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:22,749
probably haven't played in a while let's

1474
01:06:30,539 --> 01:06:26,529
see this is usually I do four listen

1475
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:30,549
just what we're scattered knowledge for

1476
01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:35,790
oh here's a good one this is a actually

1477
01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:38,830
from a group called Lobo Lobo and it's

1478
01:06:46,350 --> 01:06:41,980
what was in my head use that as Kevin

1479
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:46,360
appropriate outro music ladies and

1480
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:47,500
gentlemen this has been Chris George

1481
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:49,210
Zuger and Bryan Forrester this is the

1482
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:51,790
den of lore this will be released to the

1483
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:52,510
general public

1484
01:06:58,890 --> 01:06:55,690
next week and as this is the pre record

1485
01:07:00,530 --> 01:06:58,900
thank you for our adepts for joining us

1486
01:07:05,980 --> 01:07:00,540
and asking that lovely questions of

1487
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:05,990
Bryan I will see you guys this Friday

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01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:26,380
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